Comments on: Screaming in a well — “Honor” crimes http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/ Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:19:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Global Voices 日本語 » ヨルダン：殺人は名誉ではない http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1510 Global Voices 日本語 » ヨルダン：殺人は名誉ではない Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:04:53 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1510 [...] Bam Bamは、そろそろこの厄介な問いを投げかけてもよいころだと続けている。 名誉殺人は単発で起きているのか？それとも名誉殺人をうながすような出来事がいくつか積み重なった結果起きているのか？この種の事件はどのくらいの頻度で起きているのだろう？（同根だが）よりありふれた出来事が起きる回数を減らすことができるならば、名誉の殺人も減らすことができるのだろうか？なぜ名誉の殺人を行う人がいるのだろうか？宗教のためだろうか？社会的な地位や評判を守るためだろうか？それともほかに理由があるのだろうか？ [...] [...] Bam Bamは、そろそろこの厄介な問いを投げかけてもよいころだと続けている。 名誉殺人は単発で起きているのか？それとも名誉殺人をうながすような出来事がいくつか積み重なった結果起きているのか？この種の事件はどのくらいの頻度で起きているのだろう？（同根だが）よりありふれた出来事が起きる回数を減らすことができるならば、名誉の殺人も減らすことができるのだろうか？なぜ名誉の殺人を行う人がいるのだろうか？宗教のためだろうか？社会的な地位や評判を守るためだろうか？それともほかに理由があるのだろうか？ [...]

]]> By: Lo strillone » Blog Archive » Giordania: cambiare leggi e cultura sui ‘delitti d’onore’ http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1505 Lo strillone » Blog Archive » Giordania: cambiare leggi e cultura sui ‘delitti d’onore’ Sun, 19 Apr 2009 09:11:42 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1505 [...] Bam Bam prosegue dicendo che questo è il momento di porre le domande più difficili: “I crimini d’onore sono un fatto isolato oppure il culmine di vari eventi che li precedono? Qual è la frequenza di tali eventi, ed è possibile ridurre i delitti d’onore riducendo il verificarsi dell’evento più frequente? Perché la gente commette i delitti d’onore? A causa della religione, per proteggere lo status sociale e la reputazione, o per qualche altro motivo?” [...] [...] Bam Bam prosegue dicendo che questo è il momento di porre le domande più difficili: “I crimini d’onore sono un fatto isolato oppure il culmine di vari eventi che li precedono? Qual è la frequenza di tali eventi, ed è possibile ridurre i delitti d’onore riducendo il verificarsi dell’evento più frequente? Perché la gente commette i delitti d’onore? A causa della religione, per proteggere lo status sociale e la reputazione, o per qualche altro motivo?” [...]

]]> By: 9th (and 10th) Victims of Dis-Honor Killing Tortured « my treasure http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 9th (and 10th) Victims of Dis-Honor Killing Tortured « my treasure Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:58:10 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1500 [...] BamBam [...] [...] BamBam [...]

]]> By: Deena http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1497 Deena Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:58:10 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1497 “you saved me from posting so many comments on Black iris” oh plz plz don’t, i may make a reasonable point every now or then (i hope!), but my comments are nowhere near as entertaining or evocative as urs!! :) “what i was trying to do with the questions is to place a frame work” and that is precisely what needs to be done! I think what I was trying to do with the wiki-brainstorming session was to raise ideas, creative ideas, no matter how absurd, or unrealistic, in order to be able to sit down later, and then plot them all in a plausible framework with short term and long term goals. And I still hope to do that in mid June when I am back in Jordan, to raise the same questions you and others raised, and to start...somewhere. So the more feedback and ideas collected before then the better... and the more people willing to take part in the materialisation process (writing up the framework), the more diversity in the approaches, the more likely it is to strike a chord, or two.. Ps. I would love to discuss ur questions(discuss not answer, i don’t have them :P) – but don’t want to do that on the expense of ur blog space (i tend to go on :S). “you saved me from posting so many comments on Black iris” oh plz plz don’t, i may make a reasonable point every now or then (i hope!), but my comments are nowhere near as entertaining or evocative as urs!! :)
“what i was trying to do with the questions is to place a frame work” and that is precisely what needs to be done! I think what I was trying to do with the wiki-brainstorming session was to raise ideas, creative ideas, no matter how absurd, or unrealistic, in order to be able to sit down later, and then plot them all in a plausible framework with short term and long term goals.
And I still hope to do that in mid June when I am back in Jordan, to raise the same questions you and others raised, and to start…somewhere. So the more feedback and ideas collected before then the better… and the more people willing to take part in the materialisation process (writing up the framework), the more diversity in the approaches, the more likely it is to strike a chord, or two..
Ps. I would love to discuss ur questions(discuss not answer, i don’t have them :P ) – but don’t want to do that on the expense of ur blog space (i tend to go on :S).

]]> By: Rana Husseini’s “Murder in the Name of Honour” to be Released Soon « my treasure http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Rana Husseini’s “Murder in the Name of Honour” to be Released Soon « my treasure Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:31:50 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1496 [...] Husseini’s “Murder in the Name of Honour” to be Released Soon By kinziblogs Rana Husseini’s long-awaited book will be released in the UK May 28, according to Razan at WebSessed. The book will [...] [...] Husseini’s “Murder in the Name of Honour” to be Released Soon By kinziblogs Rana Husseini’s long-awaited book will be released in the UK May 28, according to Razan at WebSessed. The book will [...]

]]> By: kinzi http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1495 kinzi Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:28:13 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1495 Hi Bam, I forgot to check back, what a thread! Razan's blog says it will be released in October 09 in Jordan. We'll all have to attend the event! I have Ellen Sheeley's book if you want to borrow it. It is an easy, short and informative read. Thanks again for the post. I am AMAZED at the diversity of people behind this project. Hi Bam, I forgot to check back, what a thread!

Razan’s blog says it will be released in October 09 in Jordan. We’ll all have to attend the event!

I have Ellen Sheeley’s book if you want to borrow it. It is an easy, short and informative read.

Thanks again for the post. I am AMAZED at the diversity of people behind this project.

]]> By: bambam http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 bambam Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:23:15 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1494 It's interesting that it was released in dutch first .... is there going to be a release event in jordan ? it'll be a real shame if there isn't. I'll keep an eye out for it for sure It’s interesting that it was released in dutch first …. is there going to be a release event in jordan ? it’ll be a real shame if there isn’t. I’ll keep an eye out for it for sure

]]> By: Ali http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1492 Ali Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:07:47 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1492 Bambam, one of my friends has wrote a book about this "Rana Hussieni" her book is called "Murder in the name of Honour" her web site is http://www.ranahusseini.com/ Bambam, one of my friends has wrote a book about this “Rana Hussieni” her book is called “Murder in the name of Honour”
her web site is http://www.ranahusseini.com/

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Jordan: No Honour in Killing http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1489 Global Voices Online » Jordan: No Honour in Killing Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:59:30 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1489 [...] Bam Bam goes on to say this is high time to ask all the tough question: “Are honor crimes an isolated occurrence or a culmination of several events that lead to them ? how frequent do those events occur and if I reduce the occurrence of the most frequent event can I reduce honor crimes? Why do people commit honor crimes? is it because of religion , to protect social status and reputation, or some other reasons?” [...] [...] Bam Bam goes on to say this is high time to ask all the tough question: “Are honor crimes an isolated occurrence or a culmination of several events that lead to them ? how frequent do those events occur and if I reduce the occurrence of the most frequent event can I reduce honor crimes? Why do people commit honor crimes? is it because of religion , to protect social status and reputation, or some other reasons?” [...]

]]> By: BamBam http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/04/02/screaming-in-a-well-honor-crimes/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 BamBam Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:07:32 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=471#comment-1487 you know what ? the fact that you stuck behind your bumper sticker idea and you defended it superbly makes me admire you (even though i don't agree with it still :P) even more (for you saved me from posting so many comments on Black iris because you already said it all and less sarcastically). I like what you are talking about; redefining the discourse, and it's a powerful tool since it creates a blank description for u to fill in. Do you have any suggestion for the alternatives ? the other day maioush posted a video about a report on honor crimes in jordan and it was horrifying yet and enlightening insight. The main thing, beyond awareness, is creating options for women, and making those options seem familiar to the children. One way would be through curiculum and educational materials for instance. On the short run it might be creating refuge to people who are in danger. Either way what i was trying to do with the questions <i>(and honostly i was secretly hoping that you gals would read this try to answer them)</i> is to place a frame work, a starting point per se so that even though we might not have all the answers but it pushes us to start working on finding some of them. If you are a minority you need to be empowered and what better power is there than knowledge ? you know what ? the fact that you stuck behind your bumper sticker idea and you defended it superbly makes me admire you (even though i don’t agree with it still :P ) even more (for you saved me from posting so many comments on Black iris because you already said it all and less sarcastically).

I like what you are talking about; redefining the discourse, and it’s a powerful tool since it creates a blank description for u to fill in. Do you have any suggestion for the alternatives ?

the other day maioush posted a video about a report on honor crimes in jordan and it was horrifying yet and enlightening insight.
The main thing, beyond awareness, is creating options for women, and making those options seem familiar to the children.
One way would be through curiculum and educational materials for instance. On the short run it might be creating refuge to people who are in danger.

Either way what i was trying to do with the questions (and honostly i was secretly hoping that you gals would read this try to answer them) is to place a frame work, a starting point per se so that even though we might not have all the answers but it pushes us to start working on finding some of them. If you are a minority you need to be empowered and what better power is there than knowledge ?

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