04 Aug, 2009

My Rules: This post has been clawing its way out for a while

Posted by: BamBam In: Blast| fashakeh

wing nutsIf you believe in demons and ghosts then you are not allowed to ridicule other peoples belief in certain types of demons and possessions Sine you are already lost that right during you initial claim.

i know that demons and ghosts exists and sometimes excorsims are needed, but there is no such thing as a Demon of Homosexuality….this is just rediculous and gives not only Christians, but black people, a bad name.

Pasted from Manifested Glory Ministries Exorcism Video

If you want to claim divine protection for the pilgrims and the immunity of certain cities from contracting diseases at least look at some statistics of disease outbreaks during haj, hell even refer to hadith ! Our ever so glorious shaman and witch doctor Mr. Al-Qudah was quoted in Al-Sabeel newspaper claiming that pilgrims to mecca and medina should not worry about swine flu because they are protected by divine providence and to protect your self from it you need to be committed to Islam , amen hallelujah

أنهى القضاة حديثه مؤكداً أن الوقاية من هذا الوباء لا تحتاج إلا إلى المزيد من الالتزام بالأوامر الإسلامية”

If you have kids a quarter of your age, sleeping under the same blanket as you, just as friends then you have to redefine the word “friend”

Wade also slept in the same bed as Michael dozens of times, but ‘just as a friend and the bed was huge’.

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If you think the reason that a young girl survived a plane crash is because she is shy then it doesn’t come as a surprise that you would call it a miracle from god …

“She is a very, very shy girl. I would never have thought she would have survived like this. I can’t say that it’s a miracle, I can say that it is God’s will,” he said.

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You are worst that trash if you write a blog post, and join a facebook group protesting the case of a girl wanting to emancipate her self from an oppressive father and country and asking for her freedom of movement when you didn’t even raise a fracking blip when they were impaling the CEDAW

It is really silly when Bribery and Rape are punished in the same manner as the punishment for enjoying A frosty cold beer. I wonder if tasted great or was just less filling.

Part-time model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno was sentenced Monday to six lashes and a fine of 5,000 ringgit ($1,400) for consuming alcohol, said a Shariah High Court official who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to make public statements

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18 Responses to "My Rules: This post has been clawing its way out for a while"

1 | Suzanne

August 4th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

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Hi! I don’t understand your poll. Returning to where? Jordan b4 1922 was Palestinian. Does that count? Westbank b4 1967 was Jordan – is that what you meant where they should be able to return to?

*confused confused*

2 | bambam

August 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

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does it make a difference ? aren’t they all supposed to be palestinians ? technically the westbank is not part of jordan any more after 1988 and hence all of what people consider to be palestine qualifies … under all periods.
Though i don’t get what you meant by jordan before 1922 was palestinian …

should i rephrase it like this:
Should a Palestinian or a Jordanian of Palestinian origin be sent back to Palestine once the circumstances allow ?

3 | Khaled

August 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

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Great post, I wanted to say a few of them myself.

4 | Nizar

August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 am

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This shekh who ever he is that claimed it is not possible to get the swine flu from haj reminds me of this guy that refused to send his daughter to the hospital to get proper medical care insisting that faith healing works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFv5VrQqT0

5 | Suzanne

August 5th, 2009 at 9:13 am

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What is Palestine, bambam?

6 | BamBam

August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am

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Well the boundaries change depending to either the 1922 definition, the 1948 or 1967… but the simplest definition is west of the jordan river and east of the Mediterranean. bordered by sheik mountains in the north and sinai peninsula at the south … that would be a simple definition of what was considered modern day Palestine.

7 | BamBam

August 5th, 2009 at 9:26 am

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khaled thanks for dropping by, glad you like it.
nizar yeah but while that affected only his daughter this guy, who said that in a daily newspaper, could affect a bigger group of people.

8 | Suzanne

August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 am

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And then why only those boundaries and not when the Mandate of Palestine was set up (incl current Jordan)? Palestine as a country never existed. It was a region. And Jordan was a part of it. So I see no point in adding borders to a region calling it some kind of illusionary state.
That’s why I find your poll confusing. Perhaps you should have specified the region you refer to better ;)

Anyway, I’m spoiling the original thread by blabbering about the poll here :)

9 | BamBam

August 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am

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I don’t mind, the poll is about something totally different than what you have in mind but i’ll entertain non the less.
you even said yourself that the mandate was called the mandate of palestine so in all actually your argument should be that jordan is part of palestine and that jordan prior to the splitting of the mandate of jordan in 1922 and creating the mandate of transjordan did not exist.
Either way I mentioned the simple definition because that’s what the historic record mentions the definition of palestinian people to be, etymology dictates that the word has an origin and definition so if you are saying it doesn’t please tell whats the alternative.

either nationalistic borders can be disputed, why should belguim exist in the first place for instance, but implying that a whole group of people that occupy a land do know have the right of access to the land promised to them, not by god, but by the same people who promised the other people their plot of land is a bit of a revisionists orgasmic delusions.

10 | KJ

August 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

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People won’t get swine flu from hajj? Yet they get all sorts of other diseases?

For the love of everything living, people get any sort of disease from an OFFICE let alone walking with 2 million for a week under the sun

11 | Suzanne

August 5th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

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@bambam, allright, then.

My grandparents came from germany and italy – should i go back? That’ll be hard as I cannot split myself up. :) Moreover, I was not born there – nor were my parents.

I think my situation reflects many of the Jordanian Palestinians – as well as the Lebanese and Iraqi Palestinians. And your question therefore is not that easy.

I remember I spoke to an Arab (“Palestinian Arab”) on the west side of the Jordan River (near the Kinneret). He had some family on the east side of the river (in Jordan). I asked him if he does not miss his family and if he would not want to live there instead. He replied to me: despite all the problems here, I prefer living in Israel.

So… I don’t know about Jordan – never been there, unfortunately – but if the living standards would be perhaps a bit better for their own people – he might have said that it does not matter much to him.
:P

Anyway, I hope that one time there will be a MEU erected. A Middle-East Union. With an own currency.. hehe.

12 | BamBam

August 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

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YIKES … MEU that would a catastrofuk .
Either way back to the topic, your analogy falls if i ask that question, which nationality do you have ? the answer for the Palestinians that would be forced to move back is probably non or documents that are not recognized by anyone any more. At the end you asked and provided a choice right ? thats probably all they want to be asked whether they want it one way or another and be settled depending on that.

13 | Suzanne

August 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

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Hope I understand you correctly, and so you do believe that Palestinian Arabs should also be provided the possibility to gain the “local” nationality? E.g. Lebanese. And then they can chose to be either Lebanese, Jordanian, Israeli, Palestinian (in case there will be a state erected), Syrian, Iraqi etcetera.?

Because some Arab governments such as Lebanon do not give Palestinian Arabs these rights.

14 | BamBam

August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

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not should but could, Personally i only believe in providing more than one option and allowing them to determine what is it that they want for themselves rather than forcing them into one lump sum solution.
either way what do u believe in when it comes to that ?

15 | Suzanne

August 5th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

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No idea. Haven’t been to Jordan/Lebanon/Syria :)

But their governments I definitely not like so i’ll probably choose Israel then anyway. Also the future looks more bright (education/science) in Israel. Jordan is the second alternative. Lebanon could be a third one if only Hezbollah is kicked out. Then Egypt and then Syria and last some kind of Palestine. I have totally no trust in any current leader for this Palestine-to-be. If I would have, it might turn out higher in my list.

16 | kinzi

August 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

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Bam, you probably already knew this, that I believe in demons and angels but not ghosts nor demons of homosexuality. :)

I also hope that the dad who withheld treatment for his daughter gets the book thrown at him.

WOW, you find some great stories of hypocrisy out there.

17 | bambam

August 6th, 2009 at 9:17 am

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suzanne I wouldn’t trust them either to illustrate the situation they will be in take a look at the case of iraqi palestinians and what happened to them .
kinzi yuppers i already knew that, and i can rationalize why you wouldn’t believe in ghosts, but if you believe in demons and exorcisms then how can you argue with those people in the video ?
as for the dad i hope so too!

18 | kinzi

August 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

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well, hhmmm, good question. Now, I haven’t watched the video, maybe it would help.

I believe demons are created beings, fallen angels. Not disembodied spirits such as ghosts traditionally are, but spirits, which do seek for souls to control in a body.

They are entities, and have names and identities and favorite methods of harassing. But I don’t believe that someone’s behaviour creates them so that ‘exorcists’ say “Demon of lying, come out in Jesus name”.

I’m sure I’ve told you most of my demon stories, they come from experience and I used scriptural examples rather than training by ‘exorcists’. Maybe I didn’t tell you about my parent’s home, after they died, lots of weird stuff happened. The bed in my room tilted up to be point I almost fell on the floor. My brothers (atheists) wouldn’t stay in the house as it felt too creepy. The later tenant would come home to find all the doors and windows unlocked and opened, and once found some very heavy objects moved from one room to another when it was just impossible to do.

I had invited evil in the home through my previous occultic involvement. So we went, with my pastor, and prayed over the home. It lightened up immediately, it felt so different, and there were no further off phenomenon.

Now you are going to think I am REALLY strange.

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