Comments on: Not wise just wiser : Jealousy and such http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/10/01/not-wise-just-wiser-jealousy-and-such/ Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:19:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: bambam http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/10/01/not-wise-just-wiser-jealousy-and-such/comment-page-1/#comment-2140 bambam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:59:08 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=498#comment-2140 <b>Eman</b>, no need to apologize for anything you spoke your mind, and don't let anyone change that fact. For instance i reread this post because i forgot what i was talking about at the time. Posts like these are just meant as a reminder for me, more so than anything else. They are like you said a product of things going on in my head at the time that seem unrelated to others. The reason i like this space is because i can channel whatever i want in it and i won't have others tell me what i can and can't channel here. you shouldn't either. what you said about siblings doesn't really produce jealousy and its not because of anything you are lacking. to the contrary it might be a method that they, your parents, will be good for you. <b>Deena</b> sorry the jealousy part is unrelated as far the the second part go. The relationship stops at the fact that both topics were things that were making me sad. I agree with you the price of unhappiness is too high, but what if in the process you lose both of your happiness and theirs. How will you be able to cope with that ? That's the only thing that makes me hesitate. and thank you for your wishes and encouragements. Eman, no need to apologize for anything you spoke your mind, and don’t let anyone change that fact.
For instance i reread this post because i forgot what i was talking about at the time. Posts like these are just meant as a reminder for me, more so than anything else. They are like you said a product of things going on in my head at the time that seem unrelated to others. The reason i like this space is because i can channel whatever i want in it and i won’t have others tell me what i can and can’t channel here. you shouldn’t either.
what you said about siblings doesn’t really produce jealousy and its not because of anything you are lacking. to the contrary it might be a method that they, your parents, will be good for you.

Deena sorry the jealousy part is unrelated as far the the second part go. The relationship stops at the fact that both topics were things that were making me sad.
I agree with you the price of unhappiness is too high, but what if in the process you lose both of your happiness and theirs. How will you be able to cope with that ? That’s the only thing that makes me hesitate. and thank you for your wishes and encouragements.

]]> By: Deena http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/10/01/not-wise-just-wiser-jealousy-and-such/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Deena Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:38:07 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=498#comment-2139 I have, like yourself, grappled with many of these questions for a long time. I also arrived at the same conclusion you have, that happiness is a choice. And that pursuing the 'happy' choice may make those you care about deeply unhappy. But the price of unhappiness would be too great. And the cycle needs to be broken sometime. The cycle of expecting people to follow ready-made paths does not work for everyone. May those who choose to take them have a blissful life, but it is not a path for me. My hope is that one day in the future, those who are upset by my choices will begin to see why it was so very important that I take them. i still don't understand what that has to do with jealousy... but I hope you find your happiness, and your parents find theirs in your own happiness, not neccessarily your choices. I have, like yourself, grappled with many of these questions for a long time. I also arrived at the same conclusion you have, that happiness is a choice. And that pursuing the ‘happy’ choice may make those you care about deeply unhappy.
But the price of unhappiness would be too great. And the cycle needs to be broken sometime. The cycle of expecting people to follow ready-made paths does not work for everyone. May those who choose to take them have a blissful life, but it is not a path for me.
My hope is that one day in the future, those who are upset by my choices will begin to see why it was so very important that I take them.
i still don’t understand what that has to do with jealousy… but I hope you find your happiness, and your parents find theirs in your own happiness, not neccessarily your choices.

]]> By: Eman http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/10/01/not-wise-just-wiser-jealousy-and-such/comment-page-1/#comment-2138 Eman Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:32:53 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=498#comment-2138 Bambam, My apologies. After reading what I posted, I realized it was kinda harsh. I dunno, I really need to change the way I express my opinions. One thing that I have appreciated since the whole blogging experience.........you learn something about yourself by the way people respond to you and how people perceive your opinions. Lets just say that I've been told more than once that I'm too aggresive with my posts. I really need to channel my hostility elsewhere.................lol Bambam,

My apologies. After reading what I posted, I realized it was kinda harsh. I dunno, I really need to change the way I express my opinions.
One thing that I have appreciated since the whole blogging experience………you learn something about yourself by the way people respond to you and how people perceive your opinions.
Lets just say that I’ve been told more than once that I’m too aggresive with my posts. I really need to channel my hostility elsewhere……………..lol

]]> By: Eman http://bambamworld.com/blog/2009/10/01/not-wise-just-wiser-jealousy-and-such/comment-page-1/#comment-2137 Eman Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:26:58 +0000 http://bambamworld.com/blog/?p=498#comment-2137 First of all, the confused one here is me. The post was initially about jealousy and then evolved into……….something that has nothing to do with jealousy. I notice that you sometimes put your thoughts into writing regardless of how irrelevant they are to the issue at hand. I, for one, could never comprehend the concept of jealousy. I’ve always thought that jealousy and envy were almost the same thing, although there is a “slight” difference. Wikipedia doesn’t quite agree with me though………….lol I might acknowledge something like a car, a house, a job position, or maybe even success that I want for myself; therefore I strive to achieve the things in life that interest me. I don’t necessarily have negative feelings towards “the people” that possess anything that might interest me. This would be an example of envy. On the other hand, let’s say (hypothetically speaking) your parents treat one of your siblings more affectionately. This would be a basis for jealousy on your behalf, right? But why? If you desire your parent’s affection, why not find a way to achieve it rather than being jealous of your sibling. In my opinion, incompetence produces jealousy because obviously, if you had the power to achieve or maintain the things that you desire, there would be no reason for jealousy and/or envy. First of all, the confused one here is me. The post was initially about jealousy and then evolved into……….something that has nothing to do with jealousy. I notice that you sometimes put your thoughts into writing regardless of how irrelevant they are to the issue at hand.
I, for one, could never comprehend the concept of jealousy. I’ve always thought that jealousy and envy were almost the same thing, although there is a “slight” difference. Wikipedia doesn’t quite agree with me though………….lol
I might acknowledge something like a car, a house, a job position, or maybe even success that I want for myself; therefore I strive to achieve the things in life that interest me. I don’t necessarily have negative feelings towards “the people” that possess anything that might interest me. This would be an example of envy.
On the other hand, let’s say (hypothetically speaking) your parents treat one of your siblings more affectionately. This would be a basis for jealousy on your behalf, right? But why? If you desire your parent’s affection, why not find a way to achieve it rather than being jealous of your sibling.
In my opinion, incompetence produces jealousy because obviously, if you had the power to achieve or maintain the things that you desire, there would be no reason for jealousy and/or envy.

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